The Elephant in the Room Part II

Started by animal, Sep 30, 2023, 03:38 PM

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Thin Red Swine

Quote from: Show-Me Hog on Oct 22, 2023, 02:41 PMI wonder which of these it was.


I think it's all Pittman. He said we needed to make some decisions, so he wanted to show he could make one.

Yurachek hasn't appeared to be that much of a meddler. But Shirley he's sitting back and watching, and not giving this any more weight than it deserves. The last four games still should dictate Sam's future.

Quote from: piglosopher on Oct 22, 2023, 03:58 PMAnother consideration is that recruiting is getting better and better under Pittman. That's not a small thing, blue chip guys are still the main key to success. To build trust, foundation, and relationships with those guys start young and take time.  But we're still doing well with the portal, inconsistent but more hits than misses.

He made an outstanding hire with T Will and the defensive changes there.

He'll have to make another hire on the offensive side now.


Our recruiting is still somewhere around the bottom third of the conference. That is NOT our key to success. We will always have to win with scheme.

vegashog

whether it was pittman's decision alone or not, the net result will probably be the same. he gets another year.

supposedly kennedy has been told he hits the bricks after the missouri game.


animal

Quote from: BleedinRed on Oct 22, 2023, 04:01 PMAll this tells me is Sam will be back next year.  He is making staff changes, hopefully correcting the problem, and he will be given next year to show that its "them, not me".
It tells me he was told to figure it the fuck out and do it sooner rather than later.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: animal on Oct 22, 2023, 05:29 PMIt tells me he was told to figure it the fuck out and do it sooner rather than later.


Exactly

mde114

Quote from: vegashog on Oct 22, 2023, 04:16 PMwhether it was pittman's decision alone or not, the net result will probably be the same. he gets another year.

supposedly kennedy has been told he hits the bricks after the missouri game.



Probably an economic decision to let Pittman have next season, let that buyout shrink up.

Surely no one believes he can effectively coach this team.

buff2.0

From the nob...

QuotePittman thought the roster turnover would bring in enough new guys to make it worth installing Enos' full offense. He completely discounted the value of continuity for key guys like KJ, the RB room, and the OL. Pittman also whiffed on thinking his position coaches would be fully bought into the offense and more importantly be able to coach the offense into the position groups such that the offense would be a cohesive unit.

QuotePiggybacking off of this, the information came from Dan Enos and Sam Pittman interviews on HOGS+.

Hogs+ was a nifty idea but I cancelled it last season. 
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

DirkPiggler

Quote from: vegashog on Oct 22, 2023, 01:43 PMthree others on his staff, including both the coordinators, had sexton as an agent and not a peep was heard, even after they got raises.

fwiw, pittman said that the reason he went with sexton was to streamline the process because it was the same agent.

If you play the "I love this place" and "muh loyaltee" card to get and keep the job, when you hire the biggest shark in the agent pool who also has a documented history of working against our school to the benefit of rival programs, you don't get to play the same card as other coaches who are just trying to get market value.

Yurachek would have almost certainly given Sam a similar raise if he'd kept Judy Henry, if he'd hired Petrino's agent Russ Campbell, or probably if the two of them had sat down with an old col'beer and hashed it out themselves.  Hiring an enemy of the program to do his negotiating was completely unnecessary and showed bad faith after Hunter and others had stuck out their necks for a guy who wasn't even qualified to get an interview for a SEC head coaching position without familiarity.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: vegashog on Oct 22, 2023, 04:16 PMwhether it was pittman's decision alone or not, the net result will probably be the same. he gets another year.

supposedly kennedy has been told he hits the bricks after the missouri game.



Hopefully this is the case.  Kennedy deserved to be fired at the end of last year, and certainly should have been shown the door along with Enos.  But maybe they don't have a GA that could handle the day-to-day duties without a warm body in the position.  This is a start at least. 

I don't think you can bring Sam back at 0-8, and almost certainly not at 1-7, but getting the guy most responsible for the shitty offense is a good start. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

DRYANKNPULL


Show-Me Hog


Gambler

Quote from: buff2.0 on Oct 22, 2023, 05:58 PMFrom the nob...

Hogs+ was a nifty idea but I cancelled it last season. 
I keep it for basketball and baseball behind the scenes stuff.

animal

Quote from: DRYANKNPULL on Oct 22, 2023, 06:24 PMWe're going bowling now!
I assume somewhere in NWA there is a bowling alley. 
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

Spiderham

Quote from: animal on Oct 22, 2023, 07:22 PMI assume somewhere in NWA there is a bowling alley.
Is "Larry" coming?    :suicide:
Oak Grove in the house.

piglosopher

Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Oct 22, 2023, 04:09 PMOur recruiting is still somewhere around the bottom third of the conference. That is NOT our key to success. We will always have to win with scheme.

It's still the best we've ever done. We got 2026 guys that arguably nationwide recruits that could go any where.

Yes we'll always need to win with scheme. Evidently not Enos's.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: piglosopher on Oct 22, 2023, 07:44 PMIt's still the best we've ever done. We got 2026 guys that arguably nationwide recruits that could go any where.

Yes we'll always need to win with scheme. Evidently not Enos's.

People don't want to hear it, but short of a decade or so of 2010-2011 success we are always going to recruit in the 15-30 range nationally which will put us somewhere between 6th and 10th in the SEC. 
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

animal

The fellers over on reddit have developed a short list so all is well

Dan Mullen
Rhett Lashlee
anyone with Texas ties and knowing HY is a plus
Gus
Michigan DC that came out of his momma's vag in a hospital in Arkansas.

"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

piglosopher

#436
Call me crazy but Odom and his innovative OC don't look half bad right now. Fayvillains had a good paragraph on them several weeks back.

A previously dogshit UNLV has no business being 6-1.

buff2.0

Quote from: animal on Oct 22, 2023, 07:52 PMThe fellers over on reddit have developed a short list so all is well

Dan Mullen
Rhett Lashlee
anyone with Texas ties and knowing HY is a plus
Gus
Michigan DC that came out of his momma's vag in a hospital in Arkansas.



We're boned. 
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

Pig Benis

Quote from: animal on Oct 22, 2023, 07:52 PMThe fellers over on reddit have developed a short list so all is well

Dan Mullen
Rhett Lashlee
anyone with Texas ties and knowing HY is a plus
Gus
Michigan DC that came out of his momma's vag in a hospital in Arkansas.



 :suicide:
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.

DRYANKNPULL

Quote from: animal on Oct 22, 2023, 07:22 PMI assume somewhere in NWA there is a bowling alley.

There was in the early 90's. The intramural bowling league was allsome. I usually bowled the current temperature. Celsius.