The Elephant in the Room Part II

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HughJasole

Quote from: Texzilla on Nov 20, 2023, 11:16 AMI guess the mitigation language wasn't enough to get Sam to retire.  So we're stuck with this stupid buyout.  Sam could be here for years if the boosters are saying told you so.  I hate malzahn but he'd be better than this mess and the hell that is coming.

No one will come here to be an assistant for a one year deal.  With the money they make wives don't tolerate that moving all the time anymore.  Were stuck with what we got.

The decommits and transfers out coming fast.  Look for lots of walkons. 

2 win team next year.  This was a down year for the sec; it won't be next year.  Pathetic.  Sam will leave the program even worse than he found it.  A shitstain.  All the money, the facilities, the base all wasted with an inept coach.  Rich inept coach. 

UAPB and Louisiana Tech might be the only wins next year.

HogOfWar

Quote from: HughJasole on Nov 20, 2023, 11:29 AMUAPB and Louisiana Tech might be the only wins next year.
Are we playing UAPB in Little Rock?
The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

AporkalypseNow

I think Bielema is a better coach than Sam, and I hate that I think that.

mde114

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 20, 2023, 11:44 AMI think Bielema is a better coach than Sam, and I hate that I think that.

Man, I hate to agree.

SwahiliSteve

Quote from: Thin Red Swine on Nov 20, 2023, 11:28 AMHe was playing?! Florida needs him to make that 450 pound guy look smaller. 
you know what I mean
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

The Whyte Boar

Simple, Sam was a lying sack of shit.  The "Aw shucks, I'm just happy to be here and I'll leave on my own if I can't get it done" was bullshit from the start.

I know Sam won't see it that way but this is some of the most cynical bullshit, I've ever seen.  He gets hired out of the blue when absolutely no one and no other school would have given him a chance anywhere.  If reports are to be believed part of the reason was because Jimmy Sexton wasn't his agent.  As soon as he  has a little success, he hires Sexton and holds us up for a big salary and buyout as if he was owed it instead of the other way around.  Then with our football future hanging in the balance, one more bad year might put this program under, he doesn't go home as he said he would, his ego and his money are more important to him than the program that gave him a chance to be a head coach when his career was already over and absolutely no one else would.

And all through the year, we get his hyper sensitive bullshit.  The other night the commentators were talking about their talk with him and "what he had done for the program" instead of the other way around.  He had a chance to walk away as one of the most beloved characters in Arkansas history but his ego and money were worth more to him than that.  Fuck that guy. 

hit_that_line

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 20, 2023, 11:44 AMI think Bielema is a better coach than Sam, and I hate that I think that.
When Bielema first got here and started making the speaking rounds, I thought holy shit this guy gets it. Appeared to have extreme attention to detail. My god what a disappointment.

Thin Red Swine

Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 20, 2023, 12:32 PMWhen Bielema first got here and started making the speaking rounds, I thought holy shit this guy gets it. Appeared to have extreme attention to detail. My god what a disappointment.

You know he could recite the five best cheeseburger joints in NWA at the drop of a hat. If that's not detailed I don't know what is.

AporkalypseNow

Quote from: hit_that_line on Nov 20, 2023, 12:32 PMWhen Bielema first got here and started making the speaking rounds, I thought holy shit this guy gets it. Appeared to have extreme attention to detail. My god what a disappointment.

I think he had a good vision and philosophy, but lacked the motivation and attention to detail.

He could've been a great coach, but simply didn't care enough to do so.

I'm not surprised he's doing reasonably well at Illinois, but I don't expect him to win any titles there, either.

DRYANKNPULL

We just aren't serious about football. I love the hogs and always will. I even went to a game this year, but the smartest thing I've done is give up my tickets during Bert's time because it was obvious we weren't serious about football.

DirkPiggler

Quote from: AporkalypseNow on Nov 20, 2023, 12:48 PMI think he had a good vision and philosophy, but lacked the motivation and attention to detail.

He could've been a great coach, but simply didn't care enough to do so.

I'm not surprised he's doing reasonably well at Illinois, but I don't expect him to win any titles there, either.

He's a loss to Northwestern away from two losing seasons (and a very mediocre "winning" year) out of three. 

I know it's Illinois, but Burt hasn't done anything to dispel the notion that he was the problem here, not the program itself.
Perish peacefully in a warm environment.

Hizog

If this is really happening, then Yurachek needs to hire the OC, not Pittman. Hire a guy that you think could make a good head coach and tell him that. Hell, Sam will likely drop below the magical .500 mark by game 5 next season. Fire him then and give the new guy 6 or 7 games as the interim to see what he can do. 

I'm not a fan of the head coach in waiting model, but this could be a situation that calls for it. Whether it's official or unofficial.

HogOfWar

Pittman turned his Twitter account back on. I bet it will be off again by Friday night.
The dildo of consequence, rarely arrives lubed.

egregious

Quote from: Hizog on Nov 20, 2023, 01:16 PMIf this is really happening, then Yurachek needs to hire the OC, not Pittman. Hire a guy that you think could make a good head coach and tell him that. Hell, Sam will likely drop below the magical .500 mark by game 5 next season. Fire him then and give the new guy 6 or 7 games as the interim to see what he can do. 

I'm not a fan of the head coach in waiting model, but this could be a situation that calls for it. Whether it's official or unofficial.

He ain't dropping below the magical 350# mark any time soon.
Splash 11! drop ABE track, too confusing

HughJasole

Quote from: HogOfWar on Nov 20, 2023, 11:39 AMAre we playing UAPB in Little Rock?

Yes it is the season opener next year, August 31.

DRYANKNPULL

Quote from: HughJasole on Nov 20, 2023, 01:29 PMYes it is the season opener next year, August 31.

Expect this game to move to Thursday the 29th. Teams that aren't serious about football move their games to have longer holiday weekends.

SwahiliSteve

Quote from: HughJasole on Nov 20, 2023, 01:29 PMYes it is the season opener next year, August 31.
jesus Christ and we will most likely be beat
Yep. I'm not trying to be a dick about it. It could have lived. It didn't. Not by my choice. -Elvis

jdcatty

I am sick of hearing that "we aren't serious about football."  It makes no sense. 

If you believe that, tell us what the hell we should do?  And please don't say "hire Bobby Petrino."  That will never happen.
Apparently retarded member of the "fucking old people" crowd as defined by Swahili Steve.

AporkalypseNow

Quote from: DirkPiggler on Nov 20, 2023, 01:13 PMHe's a loss to Northwestern away from two losing seasons (and a very mediocre "winning" year) out of three. 

I know it's Illinois, but Burt hasn't done anything to dispel the notion that he was the problem here, not the program itself.

Yeah, he didn't kill it here.  His last season was roughly equivalent to this one, and it got him canned.

But he was a winner at Wisconsin and has Illinois competitive.  Overall resume wise, significantly stronger than Sam.

Not saying we should've kept him, but we should be firing Sam if we held him to the same standard.

Sam's 11-22 (about to be 11-23 in conference) without a winning SEC record in a single season.

AporkalypseNow

Quote from: jdcatty on Nov 20, 2023, 01:40 PMI am sick of hearing that "we aren't serious about football."  It makes no sense. 

If you believe that, tell us what the hell we should do?  And please don't say "hire Bobby Petrino."  That will never happen.

Find a promising up and comer and give him a chance, and give him the resources in asst coaching money and NIL he needs.