The Elephant in the Room Part II

Started by animal, Sep 30, 2023, 03:38 PM

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The Whyte Boar

Quote from: The Reverend SnoopHogg on Oct 01, 2023, 01:18 PMMake no mistake, I will(unless I completely and wholeheartedly shit the bed in the next three years)  Not from the UpfA, but it's coming. 

May be why I don't give a fuck.

I still have no leverage...and I'm ok with that. 

That kind of money can buy a lot of peace of mind.

Unless you shit the bed.  Sam has already shitten his bed and he will still get it, no matter what. 

animal

I don't think there was any way Odom was going to be retained so the point is fairly moot. I don't think you need to be an insider to figure out Pittman allowed him to save face by taking a gig elsewhere. 

Briles: I had no problem with replacing him. I liked the offense for the most part, but his play calling was maddening sometimes. In fairness he also came up with some real zingers from time to time and clearly the current team is better suited to that offense than whatever the fuck we are current attempting. Our lack of QB development was also a huge red flag and that's something I still feel a bit better about with Enos. The offensive line may not get fixed this season but next year with Criswell under center and hopefully a vastly improved line...we'll see some progress.

I want people to bare in mind that with the Briles offense and the Enos offense the common denominator for better or worse is KJ Jefferson's QB play which can be brilliant at times and stupefied in stupid at other times. But I'm pretty sure it wasn't KJ calling those weird trick plays all the time while Briles was here that rarely worked. KJ has his faults and it's looking like this Enos offense isn't correcting them it's making them look worse. Holding on to the ball too long, making him find the check downs and all that sort of stuff is not his wheelhouse. He's much better doing legit RPOs. Our two man game between him and Rocket aren't working because nobody is afraid of anything we do.






"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

CardHog

Quote from: vegashog on Oct 01, 2023, 11:44 AMif he's under .500 overall at the end of the year (he's currently 20-20), he has no real leverage in daring anyone to fire him. he only gets 50% of his buyout.

Per contract, the Covid year doesn't count.

Too Big Pig

Quote from: CardHog on Oct 01, 2023, 01:56 PMPer contract, the Covid year doesn't count.

So he's 18-13 without the Covid year.

@ Ole Miss
@ Bama
Miss St.
@ Florida
Auburn
FIU
Mizzou

An FIU win and 0-fer the rest of the way in the SEC just gets him to .500
"When life gives you lemons...fuck life"
- Sir John Michael of Oklahoma

animal

Quote from: Too Big Pig on Oct 01, 2023, 02:44 PMSo he's 18-13 without the Covid year.

@ Ole Miss
@ Bama
Miss St.
@ Florida
Auburn
FIU
Mizzou

An FIU win and 0-fer the rest of the way in the SEC just gets him to .500
Just to go 4-3 the rest of the way would be some fucking coach of the year brilliance that just isn't within Bert Pittman
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

hit_that_line


CardHog

Quote from: hit_that_line on Oct 01, 2023, 02:52 PMLol. Of course.

I think the reasoning here is that it was an SEC only schedule and no cupcakes.

Barton Fink

No cupcakes is an understatement. That schedule was brutal.

animal

Quote from: Barton Fink on Oct 01, 2023, 03:47 PMNo cupcakes is an understatement. That schedule was brutal.
I halfway expect to start next season @Texas @Oklahoma and then home against Georgia or something like that. Because of the remix and all.
"I got fired for using free speech" yea imagine getting killed over it

piglosopher

Once Pittman's coaching days are over, he would be a terrific color commentator. He'd have to get back on Twitter though.

buff2.0

Quote from: animal on Oct 01, 2023, 03:49 PMI halfway expect to start next season @Texas @Oklahoma and then home against Georgia or something like that. Because of the remix and all.


Clemson and Florida State will join and become our cross-division rivals after the SEC office decides to make those a thing again so they can keep fucking with us.
"That's embarrassing.  Looks like Josh Duggar when his parents asked him to babysit."

For $7 mil I'll put a webcam in front of my shitter so I can answer fan questions while I drop the Longhorns off in College Station.

Once authored a post that critics claimed, "Was notaslibro level."

vegashog


TC

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 01, 2023, 12:33 PMHe doesn't care enough to actually do the work required.  I think he'll probably retire, but my original post on him not caring was in response to someone posting that we would have to force him to hire good coordinators.  Sam doesn't care enough to be forced into something.  He is set for life no matter what happens. 

I disagree that he doesn't care. He strikes me as someone who cares a lot, which is the same reason most of us all like him as a person. He's a good dude by all accounts. The problem is he doesn't have the ability.

Let's not confuse his inability with apathy.

The Whyte Boar

Quote from: TC on Oct 01, 2023, 05:36 PMI disagree that he doesn't care. He strikes me as someone who cares a lot, which is the same reason most of us all like him as a person. He's a good dude by all accounts. The problem is he doesn't have the ability.

Let's not confuse his inability with apathy.


Does Pittman strike you as the kind who cares enough to be up there at 1:00 a.m. in the summer watching film and texting recruits?  No, me either.  And like it or not, thats the bar set by other coaches in this league.  Now, I agree that it probably wouldn't matter if he did. He probably wouldn't get Saban results even if he worked that hard, but if he isn't working that hard, we lose to the likes of Liberty and BYU. 

Texzilla

Quote from: The Whyte Boar on Oct 01, 2023, 05:40 PMDoes Pittman strike you as the kind who cares enough to be up there at 1:00 a.m. in the summer watching film and texting recruits?  No, me either.  And like it or not, thats the bar set by other coaches in this league.  Now, I agree that it probably wouldn't matter if he did. He probably wouldn't get Saban results even if he worked that hard, but if he isn't working that hard, we lose to the likes of Liberty and BYU. 

The problem isn't that he isn't working those hours.  He doesn't have expectations his assistant coaches will work the hours required of their jobs. 

Feral

Quote from: CardHog on Oct 01, 2023, 01:56 PMPer contract, the Covid year doesn't count.

COVID year record doesn't count, but the salary he made that year sure does.

Feral

Quote from: animal on Oct 01, 2023, 02:46 PMJust to go 4-3 the rest of the way would be some fucking coach of the year brilliance that just isn't within Bert Pittman

I rather like the name Pitt Bertman

bigpig

#157
Quote from: vegashog on Oct 01, 2023, 04:09 PMwe get texas at home, don't play ou. actually the schedule looks pretty decent.

https://www.secsports.com/article/37854660/sec-reveals-2024-football-opponents-locations
Ugh we have to keep playing the Aggies.

It never ends


Looking over it, it seems like South Carolina got the biggest shaft. No rival games were retained
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The Whyte Boar

Quote from: Texzilla on Oct 01, 2023, 06:30 PMThe problem isn't that he isn't working those hours.  He doesn't have expectations his assistant coaches will work the hours required of their jobs. 

The only way a leader gets that type effort is if he sets the example and does it himself.

Pig Benis

I don't think Pittman is going anywhere for another year, but for shits and giggles who is it that we think is actually worth a shit and wants the job? Anyone who isn't already in the Big 10 or SEC?

Leipold?
Matt Campbell now that he's lost some shine and probably wants SEC money?
Elko will most likely have several jobs to choose from this year.

I think we'd end up taking a flyer on one of the better coaches in the Sunbelt- which may not be a bad thing.
The Lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it. 'Cuz that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. I don't care what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser? You go live in Russia. I'm a winner. I'm an American.